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Sandhu and Thom build one from OpenAI’s non-residually-finite hyperbolic group, starting from an AI-generated construction; Douglas–Mghirbi give an independent AI-assisted proof with Lean

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The takeaway

Whether every hyperbolic group is sofic was a well-known open question in group theory. Two groups now say no. Both build on the torsion-free, non-residually-finite hyperbolic group in OpenAI’s 6 October release. One is co-written by Andreas Thom, an expert in sofic groups. The other, by Douglas and Mghirbi, comes with a Lean formalization.

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20 October 2026

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Key facts

  • Paper: ‘An example of a non-sofic hyperbolic group’, Harjas Sandhu and Andreas Thom, arXiv 2610.24836 [math.GR], 17 Oct 2026. Abstract: ‘We construct a torsion-free, two-dimensional, word-hyperbolic group which is not sofic. Our construction builds on OpenAI’s construction of a non-residually finite hyperbolic group [14].’
  • Background (paper): ‘The question whether all groups are sofic was open for a long time. The first proof of the existence of a non-sofic group was given by OpenAI’ (Astra’s ‘Nonsofic groups exist’, Ten Advances, Aug 2026). Kun and Thom built non-sofic wreath products; Chapman and Peled gave a conditional non-sofic hyperbolic group from random simplicial complexes (arXiv 2509.21566)
  • Construction: fundamental group of a triangle complex with a locally CAT(−1) metric, built from marked lines in D(5, q) over F_q^5, with real versus finite-field rank comparison; Ian Agol pointed to Dvir’s finite-field Kakeya work for the interpolation step (Lemma 2.1)
  • Acknowledgments, verbatim: ‘This paper is based on an AI-generated construction obtained by Harjas Sandhu on October 7, 2026, which was in turn based on the OpenAI breakthrough [14]. The second author worked through the proof to make it readable and to reduce unnecessary overhead. OpenAI’s GPT Astra helped draft this document. … An independent AI-assisted proof was given by Douglas–Mghirbi [5].’ They ‘view this document as a commentary on OpenAI 252’
  • Douglas–Mghirbi, ‘Non-soficity of OpenAI’s torsion-free hyperbolic group’ (GitHub Apsiape/hyperbolic-group-not-sofic, created 7 Oct 2026, Zenodo DOI 10.5281/zenodo.23202474): OpenAI’s rank argument against finite quotients ‘survives approximation’, so the same group is not sofic. ‘The group and every input to the argument are OpenAI’s; the approximate argument, its constants and the formalization are ours.’ The Lean code builds on OpenAI’s development
  • Douglas–Mghirbi v1.1.0 adds: for division rings K of the construction’s characteristic q, K[G] has no Linnell division ring; G is not bi-orderable
  • Context: in September Thom argued that OpenAI’s August non-sofic result relied on his 2019 work with Kun (see the Astra ten-advances entry). Here he is co-author of a paper building on OpenAI’s later construction
  • Dependency: OpenAI family 252, ‘A torsion-free hyperbolic group that is not residually finite’, is an unrefereed manuscript from the 6 Oct release (Lean-formalized according to OpenAI’s catalogue). Whether every hyperbolic group is residually finite is itself a famous open question (Gromov)

What happened

A group is sofic if it can be approximated by finite permutation groups. Every amenable and every residually finite group is sofic, and for decades no non-sofic group was known. OpenAI’s Astra claimed the first one in August. Its 6 October release added a torsion-free hyperbolic group that is not residually finite (family 252). Within a day, two efforts used that group to get a non-sofic hyperbolic group. Harjas Sandhu obtained an AI-generated construction on 7 October, and Andreas Thom turned it into a readable proof. Seth Douglas and Nidhal Mghirbi showed directly that OpenAI’s group is not sofic and formalized the step in Lean.

Why it matters

Hyperbolic groups were the main candidates in the search for a non-sofic group. A concrete hyperbolic example answers a question that geometric group theorists have asked for a long time. Its trustworthiness depends on OpenAI’s family-252 manuscript, which no referee has checked yet. That makes the residual-finiteness claim in OpenAI’s release more important to verify.

What is disputed or not yet verified

What is disputed or not yet verified
VerificationUnrefereed preprint co-written by a sofic-groups expert (Thom); Douglas–Mghirbi’s Lean formalization depends on OpenAI’s unrefereed Lean development

Sources

4 sources from 3 sites. Numbers match the chips in the text.

4 sources: 4 primary

Primary

  1. arXiv 2610.24836: An example of a non-sofic hyperbolic group (Sandhu, Thom)arxiv.org, paper
  2. Douglas & Mghirbi: Non-soficity of OpenAI’s torsion-free hyperbolic group (note + Lean)github.com, code
  3. Zenodo record of the Douglas–Mghirbi notedoi.org, paper
  4. openai/math (family 252: a torsion-free hyperbolic group that is not residually finite)github.com, code

Changes

  • Filed (PDF read in full text; Douglas–Mghirbi repository checked)

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Verification
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Major (4 of 5)
Last verified
20 October 2026

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