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The Information: DeepSeek and Moonshot relied heavily on GPT-6 Astra outputs to train V4.1-Flash 1017 and Kimi K3.1 Pro

Partly confirmed

The takeaway

The claim is unconfirmed by the companies; it follows OpenAI’s Sept 30 report linking a distillation campaign to people associated with Moonshot.

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Partly confirmed

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Medium confidence
Importance
3 of 5
Last verified
29 October 2026

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  • GPT-6 Astra181 days after its cutoff
  • Claude Opus 5.5120 days after its cutoff
  • Gemini 4 Argon211 days after its cutoff
  • Grok 4.7150 days after its cutoff

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Key facts

  • Report: The Information, ‘OpenAI’s Astra Model Becomes Top Distillation Target for China’s AI Labs’ (Oct 28, paywalled; not read directly); Reuters summary Oct 29
  • Models named: Moonshot’s Kimi K3.1 Pro (released the week before; #4 on the Artificial Analysis index v4, top open-weights model on v5 with weights not yet published) and DeepSeek’s V4.1-Flash 1017 (Oct 17), the top released open-weights model on AA v5 (32)
  • Background: on Sept 30 OpenAI said it had linked the core of a distillation campaign that began in July to individuals associated with Moonshot AI; in July OSTP director Michael Kratsios accused Moonshot of distilling Anthropic’s Fable; earlier in October Anthropic said new defences cut data harvested by distillation attacks by about 90-99%
  • No response from OpenAI, DeepSeek or Moonshot to Reuters’ requests for comment; distillation is hard to prove from outside because training-data provenance is not observable

What happened

Two of the strongest Chinese models released in October are reported to owe much of their gains to GPT-6 Astra’s outputs. The report names no evidence beyond its sources, and the labs have not answered.

Why it matters

If accurate, the narrowing of the open-weights gap on some boards came partly from copying a US frontier model’s behaviour rather than from independent capability, which is the argument US labs and the White House have made for treating distillation as a security issue. It also bears on Moonshot’s promise to publish Kimi K3.1 Pro’s weights by Nov 4.

Sources

4 sources from 4 sites. Numbers match the chips in the text.

4 sources: 4 press

Press

  1. The Information: OpenAI’s Astra model becomes top distillation target for China’s AI labs (Oct 28, paywalled)theinformation.com, press
  2. Reuters via The Standard (HK): DeepSeek, Moonshot used OpenAI’s GPT-6 Astra to train latest models (Oct 29)thestandard.com.hk, press
  3. Reuters (original, not fetchable here)reuters.com, press
  4. Investing.com: OpenAI’s Astra used by Chinese AI firms to train modelsinvesting.com, press

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Status

Claim

Partly confirmed

Our reporting
Medium confidence
Importance
3 of 5
Last verified
29 October 2026

Sources at a glance

4 sources: 4 press

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On “Should we be worried?”

  • Concern Anthropic said three Chinese labs ran 16M+ Claude exchanges via ~24,000 fake accounts; US agencies named six Chinese firms for “industrial-scale” distillation; DeepSeek and Moonshot reportedly trained on GPT-6 Astra outputs.In Lab security and the race

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  2. Policy & safety

    Anthropic says new defenses cut the Claude reasoning harvested by distillers by about 90 to 99 percent

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  3. Policy & safety

    OpenAI says Moonshot AI-linked individuals ran a coordinated campaign to extract its models’ hidden reasoning

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  4. Policy & safety

    NSA, CISA and FBI advisory AA26-251A

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  5. Policy & safety

    White House science chief Kratsios accuses Moonshot of distilling Claude Fable to build Kimi K3 and of using GB300 servers in Thailand

    Partly confirmed

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